1 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:45,430 do 2 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:48,389 what's up everybody 3 00:00:59,189 --> 00:00:54,709 i didn't really have a topic so i'm just 4 00:00:59,199 --> 00:01:02,869 hope that's okay 5 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:05,509 um i just thought that we could talk 6 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:06,720 about 7 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:07,840 you know 8 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:09,760 the different personalities and ufology 9 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:14,000 i mean there's so many of them and 10 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:16,000 there's so much back and forth on who's 11 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:18,000 who and 12 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:19,840 you know i like this guy i don't like 13 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:21,360 that guy and 14 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:23,119 that guy's lying do you know this guy's 15 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:24,840 lying to you 16 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:27,119 so you know how do you make your mind up 17 00:01:30,010 --> 00:01:28,479 when you don't even really know any of 18 00:01:33,030 --> 00:01:30,020 these people 19 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,040 [Laughter] 20 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:35,040 right 21 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:37,920 i mean when i think about it 22 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:40,799 i think uh 23 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:45,670 you have to use your gut right 24 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:48,240 got instinct a little bit 25 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:51,200 but unfortunately if you're like me 26 00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:54,640 you've used your gut throughout life 27 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,789 sometimes your best friend 28 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:05,030 and sometimes 29 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:08,399 they wind up screwing you 30 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:10,720 whether it's a lie or they're doing 31 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:12,239 something behind your back 32 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:14,560 or whatever 33 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:17,680 and you never expected it 34 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:24,110 how can you really trust anybody 35 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:26,000 [Laughter] 36 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:27,280 it's depressing 37 00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:29,040 but you know what i mean 38 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:30,400 let alone people that you don't know 39 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:33,760 personally like the the faces of ufology 40 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:35,440 the different people the talking heads 41 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:41,190 so what's up everybody glad that you're 42 00:02:44,949 --> 00:02:42,480 here 43 00:02:48,949 --> 00:02:44,959 k42d 44 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:50,710 well laurie say out sean but you've 45 00:02:55,190 --> 00:02:52,480 you've never gotten screwed by somebody 46 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:55,200 that you didn't expect to right 47 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:57,120 i mean it happens it's just life it's a 48 00:03:01,830 --> 00:02:58,640 part of life 49 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:01,840 and the more times you go through that 50 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:04,080 the better you are at you know learning 51 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:06,480 how to 52 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:09,280 divvy out trust to different people 53 00:03:15,270 --> 00:03:11,760 you know and if you should 54 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:16,830 so i'm putting 55 00:03:22,229 --> 00:03:20,080 that link in there for anybody to stream 56 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,239 in 57 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:24,560 and you know discuss whatever you want 58 00:03:29,290 --> 00:03:27,920 to discuss we can talk about 59 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:29,300 um 60 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:31,519 [Music] 61 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:34,000 you know uh we could start with 62 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:36,640 you know we have george schnapp luella 63 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:38,400 ando we have 64 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:40,400 um 65 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:41,840 steven greer 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:43,680 stephen green street 67 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:44,050 um 68 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:45,519 [Music] 69 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:47,440 you guys tell me who we should start 70 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:49,360 with to talk about i guess i'll tell you 71 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:51,120 that the thing that kind of made me 72 00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:53,439 think this was recently there's doc 73 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:54,879 documentary 74 00:04:01,350 --> 00:04:00,480 on lou elizondo 75 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:01,360 called 76 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:05,599 right first of all 77 00:04:09,509 --> 00:04:07,360 it's like 78 00:04:12,070 --> 00:04:09,519 you know let's let's take the 79 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:12,080 information out of it it is like 80 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:12,840 the 81 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:20,220 thing i've ever tried to sit through 82 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:22,720 [Laughter] 83 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:24,960 it's every five seconds 84 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,280 he plays the same who's lou 85 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:29,600 and the guy like uh tries digging in 86 00:04:33,270 --> 00:04:31,199 deep to 87 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,280 like people like his 88 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:35,440 you know different purchases of houses 89 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:38,479 and businesses and family stuff and wife 90 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:39,600 and daughter 91 00:04:43,590 --> 00:04:42,400 and all that kind of stuff and it's um 92 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:43,600 in the end 93 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:46,320 he's left with a bunch of questions 94 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:50,790 and 95 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:52,000 benji i'm just talking about that 96 00:04:57,990 --> 00:04:53,759 documentary 97 00:05:01,029 --> 00:04:58,000 and in the end you're just left with a 98 00:05:01,039 --> 00:05:05,110 that you can't have an answer to 99 00:05:08,710 --> 00:05:06,790 so in the end 100 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:08,720 what's the point right and it kind of 101 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:12,320 reminds me of um 102 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:16,479 this uh phenomenon so to speak 103 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:17,840 right 104 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:20,160 we study this we study it we study it 105 00:05:24,070 --> 00:05:22,080 other people do super smart people 106 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,080 throughout the last 75 years people have 107 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:26,160 studied this and in the end 108 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:27,759 we're still left with a bunch of 109 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:29,039 questions 110 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,840 you don't have answers to 111 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:33,440 now some people could say well it's 112 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:35,680 meant to be that way 113 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:38,000 phenomenon is trying to be confusing so 114 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:39,919 that you can't figure it out but also 115 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:41,840 someone could say 116 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:44,960 couldn't that also just be used 117 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:49,270 you know 118 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:51,600 couldn't that also just be used as an 119 00:06:00,790 --> 00:05:58,710 could be 120 00:06:03,050 --> 00:06:00,800 but does that mean it's not the truth i 121 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:03,060 don't know 122 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:04,319 [Music] 123 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:06,720 yesterday um 124 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:08,400 on coast to coast 125 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:10,639 there was 126 00:06:17,909 --> 00:06:16,550 and i didn't get to listen to it but uh 127 00:06:20,230 --> 00:06:17,919 ufo joe 128 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:20,240 did a great uh transcription as always 129 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:22,479 via twitter you should go follow them if 130 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,680 you don't 131 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:27,749 and 132 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:28,960 you know that's kind of what he was 133 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:35,189 we might not be able to figure it out it 134 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:37,199 might be beyond us like what if it's 135 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:39,600 something that we can't even think about 136 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:40,400 like 137 00:06:46,870 --> 00:06:43,120 our minds aren't 138 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:46,880 imaginative enough or a large enough to 139 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:49,360 uh with the hold the capacity of what 140 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,240 we're dealing with 141 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:54,240 you know 142 00:06:59,589 --> 00:06:57,440 that could be quite possible 143 00:07:01,670 --> 00:06:59,599 so if that's a if that's the answer what 144 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:01,680 do you do 145 00:07:06,309 --> 00:07:04,080 do you continue to study it do you try 146 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:06,319 to like og says try to continue to 147 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:08,319 experience it or do you just live your 148 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:13,270 i mean some people spend their whole 149 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:14,080 life 150 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:15,440 on trying to 151 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:18,319 figure this out never get there 152 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:20,000 then you could say was that would that 153 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:22,000 time be better off spent on something 154 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:23,199 else 155 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:26,880 whether it be family work 156 00:07:32,070 --> 00:07:30,160 you know another hobby perhaps 157 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:32,080 i don't know 158 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:34,080 but on the flip side it's so interesting 159 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:41,270 and then you have these people 160 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:42,880 throughout the course of time that come 161 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,960 in in kind of i don't know 162 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:46,720 i don't want to say steal the show but 163 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:48,960 put their face on it and their you know 164 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:51,440 the talk of of the community whether it 165 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:53,680 be someone like lou elizondo 166 00:07:58,710 --> 00:07:56,000 or back in the day you had kehoe 167 00:08:01,270 --> 00:07:58,720 or you know dr mcdonald 168 00:08:04,469 --> 00:08:01,280 james mcdonald which is some people have 169 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:04,479 been posting today is 55 years since 170 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,560 um some interview he had that we've 171 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:08,400 played here before 172 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,469 you know different people 173 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:15,909 and 174 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:17,919 you know at least as far as we know they 175 00:08:21,909 --> 00:08:20,800 haven't figured anything out 176 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:21,919 you know 177 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:23,759 um 178 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:25,599 and you know i asked avi loeb this 179 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:27,840 question when he was on here 180 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:29,520 like haven't we done this before people 181 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:31,360 say we've done this before and he says 182 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:32,880 well they haven't had the tools there's 183 00:08:40,469 --> 00:08:39,190 and that could be true 184 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:40,479 but what if 185 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,870 you know 186 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:50,710 what if 187 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,880 you know if this thing is 100 000 years 188 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:55,040 beyond us what are the what's the 189 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:57,040 likelihood that 190 00:09:03,990 --> 00:08:59,040 whatever we have 191 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,790 you know 192 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,790 i don't know 193 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:13,829 we have had mainstream interest in it 194 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:15,040 for sure 195 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:23,110 but there's you know um 196 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:25,360 article upon newspaper article upon 197 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:27,200 newspaper article 198 00:09:33,509 --> 00:09:31,279 in the past from you know from 47 to 199 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:33,519 the 60s 200 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:34,720 basically 201 00:09:38,949 --> 00:09:36,480 like that was that was a pretty 202 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:38,959 big time 203 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:40,720 people talked about it all the time i 204 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,710 you know there was 205 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:48,870 a huge thing in the armstrong circle 206 00:09:52,470 --> 00:09:50,399 theater that was a big thing where the 207 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:52,480 air force was on there and kehoe was on 208 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:53,360 there 209 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:55,839 and his tape mysteriously got turned off 210 00:10:01,829 --> 00:09:57,440 when he started talking about the 211 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:03,990 you know so that has happened but the 212 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:06,880 problem with that then is 213 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:08,640 you know that was pretty much for the 214 00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:11,360 most part orchestrated like you read 215 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:19,910 you know how public education 216 00:10:25,190 --> 00:10:23,030 is constantly like a theme 217 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:25,200 of theirs there's one document where the 218 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:27,680 air force says 80 percent of this office 219 00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:30,079 is geared towards public 220 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:30,839 uh 221 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:38,470 you know so 222 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:40,720 at least then it seemed like most of 223 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:41,920 their job 224 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:43,600 was 225 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:44,140 to 226 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:45,440 [Music] 227 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:47,279 garner the trust of the public that 228 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:57,829 you know 229 00:11:02,710 --> 00:11:00,870 sure yeah i know but i mean 230 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:02,720 and that's all fine and well but i mean 231 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:05,200 like but what does that still have 232 00:11:08,230 --> 00:11:07,120 to do with 233 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:08,240 uh 234 00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:15,910 is is what i was talking about so 235 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:17,279 you know getting information out to 236 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:19,120 people is all fine and well 237 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:21,040 what i'm saying like i'm just 238 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:22,720 giving a 239 00:11:26,870 --> 00:11:24,560 hypothetical if you know some of the 240 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:26,880 smartest people that we have are on top 241 00:11:31,269 --> 00:11:29,680 of it and can't figure it out you know 242 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:31,279 it could it be true that this thing is 243 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:32,720 beyond 244 00:11:40,790 --> 00:11:34,640 what we have the capability of figuring 245 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:43,110 could be 246 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:45,120 could not be 247 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:46,720 but anyways yes so 248 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:48,720 you know to make this documentary who's 249 00:11:51,829 --> 00:11:50,560 lou and it just um 250 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:51,839 you know when you have all these people 251 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,279 on twitter that just um 252 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:57,600 constantly it seems like if anything is 253 00:12:02,949 --> 00:12:00,000 tweeted about or done regarding him or 254 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:02,959 anybody positive towards ufology there's 255 00:12:06,310 --> 00:12:04,720 there's a group of people or other 256 00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:06,320 people who just come in there and kind 257 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:07,440 to 258 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:08,639 um 259 00:12:14,470 --> 00:12:10,480 bring 260 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:15,910 you know the whole critical thinking 261 00:12:19,269 --> 00:12:17,680 thing or 262 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:19,279 you know trolling this guy's ripping you 263 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:21,200 off he's lying or whatever 264 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:25,829 they they don't have any uh evidence or 265 00:12:31,269 --> 00:12:29,040 anything to bring to the table right 266 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:31,279 so as if it's a new person coming in 267 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:33,360 let's say and they could see kind of 268 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:35,760 both sides of the story or even if you 269 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:38,079 yourself are kind of wondering you know 270 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:40,880 what what do i think who do i trust do i 271 00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:44,240 trust this uh elizondo guy or 272 00:12:52,069 --> 00:12:46,160 um 273 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:54,150 you know what do you do do you just 274 00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:56,720 trust them and say yeah they they got 275 00:13:00,310 --> 00:12:59,279 my best interest at heart or 276 00:13:04,829 --> 00:13:00,320 do you 277 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:04,839 to 278 00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:08,160 decide and i don't think you do 279 00:13:13,269 --> 00:13:10,560 i think the the right aspect to take is 280 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:15,590 and take it in 281 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:17,440 and take from it what may work for your 282 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:23,509 if somebody comes in and says this is 283 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:24,880 the way it is 284 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:25,920 and says 285 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:27,760 you know this person is either good or 286 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:30,000 bad like it's a fact like they're 287 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:32,800 automatically disqualified 288 00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:37,590 they don't 289 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:45,750 even if they try to know 290 00:13:48,949 --> 00:13:47,279 so i'm trying this new thing background 291 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:48,959 music if you guys don't like it just let 292 00:13:53,509 --> 00:13:49,410 me know 293 00:13:57,030 --> 00:13:53,519 [Laughter] 294 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:57,040 but uh you know so that's up to you 295 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:58,639 but you just gotta you just gotta 296 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:01,360 observe and take it in 297 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:03,120 take it in and 298 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:04,880 you know don't get your you know there's 299 00:14:13,509 --> 00:14:11,829 that kind of get uh over excited about 300 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:13,519 certain things whether it be like this 301 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:17,279 uap ax that's doing something who 302 00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:20,160 is you know at 600 hours and the way 303 00:14:24,710 --> 00:14:22,399 they put it is footage of uap so in 304 00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:24,720 reality it's 600 hours of footage 305 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:28,000 looking for uaps 306 00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:33,110 and there's money behind it and that 307 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:34,639 doesn't mean that they're going to do 308 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:37,760 this or that but we all know 309 00:14:43,269 --> 00:14:39,680 when there's money involved 310 00:14:45,550 --> 00:14:43,279 it has a way of influencing comparison 311 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:45,560 you know 312 00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:48,480 [Laughter] 313 00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:51,440 i'm not saying it is or isn't but 314 00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:57,430 and 315 00:15:02,150 --> 00:14:59,519 you know so that's why 316 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:02,160 getting your hopes up or whatever is 317 00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:09,110 then you also have people like me who do 318 00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:15,350 and you know i want to be careful with 319 00:15:20,389 --> 00:15:17,600 who i bring on here 320 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:20,399 because i don't want to 321 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:21,760 you know bring in people that will take 322 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:24,800 advantage of others right 323 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:32,310 you know 324 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,110 so 325 00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:37,430 but another thing i guess is uh 326 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:39,360 looking at the actions right like what 327 00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,110 what's happened 328 00:15:49,509 --> 00:15:47,279 like for alexander i would say since 329 00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:49,519 he's come around you can see 330 00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:50,880 you know whether you think the navy 331 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:53,040 videos are real or fake 332 00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:56,480 or he is i mean the fact is something 333 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:57,680 that's different that's happened that 334 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,279 hasn't before is 335 00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,120 a congressional congressional 336 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:03,199 legislation 337 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:05,360 to study 338 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:06,800 the phenomenon 339 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:09,120 you know 340 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,829 so you could say 341 00:16:17,839 --> 00:16:20,710 that 342 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:23,509 you know you're okay to 343 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:25,360 maybe 344 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:28,000 give that guy a little support because 345 00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:30,000 let's 346 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:33,519 um 347 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:36,560 we've gotten farther as far as effort 348 00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:38,800 goes 349 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:40,639 you know spreading awareness of it in 350 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:43,279 just um trying to study it and putting 351 00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:44,560 it in the government hand since he's 352 00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:46,079 come around and there's a lot of 353 00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:47,360 different characters that have helped 354 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,199 with that right 355 00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:51,360 like leslie kane who we just had on here 356 00:16:54,310 --> 00:16:52,639 rough blooming thought they wrote a 357 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:54,320 killer article 358 00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:56,560 without that where would we be but yes 359 00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,880 then they said well it's actually mr 360 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:00,800 ellison and chris melon 361 00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:04,959 so but in all reality it's all of them 362 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:09,669 people have been doing this for a long 363 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:12,240 time like georgenet 364 00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:17,510 i mean 365 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:20,959 gotta give that guy tons of respect 366 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:22,480 that guy took a chance on people like 367 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:24,880 bob lazar whether you believe bob lazar 368 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:29,909 you know there's no way for mr nat to 369 00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:33,360 know but he's taking a chance on it 370 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:34,880 because he knows that there's something 371 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:40,380 you know 372 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:42,960 [Music] 373 00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:43,760 so 374 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:46,799 what i would say is 375 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:49,039 you know be guarded but just 376 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:50,720 just watch it observe again i put the 377 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:52,400 stream link there in case anybody wants 378 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:54,640 to hop in you don't have to do the video 379 00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:56,960 you can just do uh audio 380 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:02,070 so 381 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,430 and then 382 00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:09,200 you know um 383 00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:11,039 people like john ramirez 384 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:13,039 or whatever he takes a lot of crap he 385 00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:15,120 was on my show we talked about his 386 00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:17,360 experiences and everything 387 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:19,039 and 388 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:21,760 he gets a lot of crap when people put 389 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:24,240 somebody commented on my video um this 390 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,080 person needs help 391 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,559 why 392 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:30,160 because he discusses something that 393 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:32,240 makes you uncomfortable that happened to 394 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:34,480 him he's not telling you that that's 395 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:36,240 reality and you have to believe this 396 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:39,840 he's just telling you what his truth is 397 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,440 you know if you don't like that truth 398 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:45,600 you know that's fine but that doesn't 399 00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:48,080 mean you have to be uh mean to somebody 400 00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:49,679 if you spend your whole time being mean 401 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:50,799 to people 402 00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:52,480 that you didn't agree with as far as 403 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:54,160 perspective like 404 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:55,679 you wouldn't be able to work you 405 00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:57,840 wouldn't be able to pay bills so why 406 00:19:00,770 --> 00:19:00,080 focus it on this one topic and this one 407 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,780 person 408 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:02,720 [Music] 409 00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:04,240 you know i wish those people just 410 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:06,400 realized that people have different 411 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:07,919 perspectives and we're unique to 412 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:10,080 ourselves as individuals and that's the 413 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:15,590 that's the way it's meant to be 414 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:17,200 so arguing against that or fighting 415 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:18,640 against that is fighting against 416 00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:28,150 and some people could say that the some 417 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:29,760 people do say i tend to say that the 418 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,840 phenomenon is a reflection of that 419 00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:35,520 people's experiences are completely 420 00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:37,760 different than one another's it seems 421 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,559 like at times 422 00:19:43,570 --> 00:19:42,640 and isn't that interesting that we are 423 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:43,580 too 424 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:53,510 you know 425 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:55,590 the other flip side is 426 00:20:02,549 --> 00:19:57,360 if you just believe everybody in 427 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:04,310 well that's when bad people come in and 428 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:08,000 take advantage of you right 429 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:09,520 now i'm not going to name names but you 430 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:11,760 know throughout cory well corey good is 431 00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:13,120 one right 432 00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,720 comes in and says he's 433 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,679 spent 20 years on the moon or whatever i 434 00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:18,960 don't even know the story the whole 435 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:21,600 story but i know the gist of it people 436 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:27,750 so how do you 437 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:28,880 how do you deal with that how do you 438 00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,630 i think 439 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:38,000 you know comes to a point where we have 440 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:40,480 to give ourselves some credit as well 441 00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,840 right in our 442 00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,679 ability to 443 00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:45,760 determine who we give our attention to 444 00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:47,679 right 445 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:49,280 like corey good for instance where is he 446 00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:55,270 he's not a part of that stuff 447 00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:56,720 why is that 448 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,559 it's not because 449 00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,039 he took people for a ride 450 00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:03,360 and everybody fell for it 451 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:05,520 no it's just because 452 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:07,360 you know it was ridiculous and it got 453 00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:10,320 called out and whatever it's over 454 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,950 but you you know another part of this is 455 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:21,039 don't validate somebody on their story 456 00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:22,480 validate them 457 00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,270 this is a great quote 458 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,280 pays to keep an open mind but not so 459 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:33,120 open your brains fall out yeah that's 460 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,029 you know 461 00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:41,270 so 462 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:43,360 like if you take the story out of it and 463 00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:45,120 you just 464 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:46,799 deal with somebody based on the person 465 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:52,070 that would probably be the better way to 466 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:58,070 like for instance when i talk to john 467 00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:00,000 ramirez i feel like i'm talking to a 468 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,710 that is easy to talk to 469 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,310 that seems caring and understanding 470 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:14,070 you know 471 00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:16,480 and that's how i deal with people 472 00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,360 and you follow to hear otherwise 473 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:22,080 deal with people based on who they are 474 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,070 you know 475 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:32,070 not their experience like oh their 476 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,120 experience 477 00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:35,360 how is that possible or um 478 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,760 he's not believable or 479 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:39,520 i don't know 480 00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,390 that's what you have to do 481 00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:52,320 and another thing is you know just like 482 00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:54,159 people and you can't fix all your 483 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,840 attention just on one person because 484 00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:57,120 what happens 485 00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:02,950 you know sometimes i get worried that 486 00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:05,280 everybody fixates on the last four years 487 00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,240 in the navy videos 488 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,320 and you know like a louis alexander 489 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,960 chris mellon and then what happens if 490 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,039 that goes down the garbage where are all 491 00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:17,120 those people gonna go 492 00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:26,149 i leave they got had 493 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:31,750 some would 494 00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,310 but they shouldn't 495 00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,159 but some would i mean there's way too 496 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:38,799 much attention and fixation on 497 00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:39,760 uh 498 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,919 i think to ttsa the navy videos 499 00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,039 um 500 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,440 all that stuff 501 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:49,039 i mean we have 502 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:52,240 nearly 80 years 503 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:55,360 that's documented by our government 504 00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,039 you know 505 00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,679 a century probably 506 00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:01,679 or more 507 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:03,600 you know since the existence of this 508 00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:06,720 earth most likely 509 00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,279 of experiences and things happening but 510 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:12,159 everyone's focused on that 511 00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:13,679 you know 512 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,029 and then you have the people like the 513 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:26,630 like the people who come in and try to 514 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,440 say 515 00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:29,760 um that they're drones or whatever or 516 00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:32,559 mick west coming in right like debunking 517 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:36,390 you know then people get these huge 518 00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,880 arguments about it 519 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:40,799 like who 520 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,840 cares 521 00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,840 you know 522 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,480 it's it's one case 523 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:51,590 you know 524 00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,080 it's not gonna be it's not the first one 525 00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:56,240 and it's not the last 526 00:25:02,710 --> 00:24:57,600 ufo 527 00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:05,029 and the more we just keep 528 00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:09,679 like small vision on these little things 529 00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:11,840 uh the less likely it's gonna be for us 530 00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,520 to actually figure out anything 531 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:17,919 because if you think that we are going 532 00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,590 this complex 533 00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:25,679 that has stumped mankind 534 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:27,900 since our existences far as we know 535 00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,120 [Music] 536 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,559 and we're going to figure this thing out 537 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:32,400 by winning an argument about a navy 538 00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:40,789 you are mistaken 539 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:44,240 figure this out it's going to be about 540 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,760 understanding 541 00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:47,279 uh each other 542 00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,710 understanding how to respect each other 543 00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:54,559 more 544 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,029 and why we say them respecting it 545 00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,880 but respecting it doesn't mean that you 546 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:06,559 have to hold a flag with somebody's 547 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,039 experience up and go i believe this and 548 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:12,000 if it's wrong i'm stupid like 549 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:17,350 just means that you're respectful 550 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:18,480 towards 551 00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,520 you know your fellow person 552 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,360 your neighbor 553 00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:25,440 because you 554 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:28,480 you can't even begin to 555 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,600 understand everything they've been 556 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:31,440 through in their life whether it's a ufo 557 00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:34,640 experience or what they did yesterday 558 00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,390 you know it's fights first people don't 559 00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:41,840 know what you've been through so how do 560 00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,720 you deal with that once you hold it 561 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,320 you take it serious and you hold it 562 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,880 light doctor sean espeon hargens was on 563 00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,720 here you know not too long ago and 564 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,880 that's something that still stays with 565 00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:54,640 me take something serious but hold it 566 00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:57,919 lightly somebody tells you a crazy story 567 00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:59,840 take it serious but hold it light you 568 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:02,240 don't have to take it to the bank and 569 00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:05,440 and debunk it or believe it 570 00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:08,400 you can just listen respectfully 571 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,549 right 572 00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:17,279 that's what i think 573 00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,399 age of aquarius my birthday 574 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,600 it's coming up 575 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:23,279 february 7th 576 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,029 so 577 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,470 yeah age of aquarius 578 00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:36,799 so that's what i think 579 00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:37,870 you know um 580 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,950 no one really 581 00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,480 does know 582 00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,640 seemingly anything about this stuff and 583 00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:52,320 then we have like a 584 00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:55,760 galileo project right gary nolan 585 00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,919 um we talked about him before he's 586 00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:00,240 studying like materials and 587 00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:02,720 cat scans of people's brains and stuff 588 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:07,590 and he you know just joined project 589 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:19,110 people are talking crap about that 590 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:23,669 you know why 591 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,350 i mean i love that avi lopez 592 00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:29,200 um bringing in all types of people he's 593 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,799 bringing in people like jacquez vale 594 00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,640 you know all sorts of smart different 595 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:36,720 people oh but the reason i mentioned 596 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:38,880 that was because um 597 00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,520 stephen bassett had posted like uh 598 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,679 gary here 599 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:45,440 you're great or whatever but when you 600 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,640 get there please tell them that the 601 00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:48,880 extraterrestrials are already here 602 00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:50,480 and that's you know that's funny and 603 00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,880 that's good but he 604 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:55,039 and he stands on that really strong but 605 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,630 how do you know 606 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,710 and if you can't prove it why say it 607 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,990 we have a guest 608 00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,430 hello hey man 609 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,720 not much 610 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:16,320 hey hey look uh 611 00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,760 we're talking about scientists getting 612 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:19,440 involved right now i have friends that 613 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:22,960 work for u of i and uh i love them 614 00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:25,279 actually work can you hear me yeah i can 615 00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:26,880 hear you okay that's what you said for 616 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,080 who uh for u of i university of illinois 617 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:32,320 uh cool yeah one of my best friends is 618 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:34,480 actually a uh 619 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:37,840 a lidar expert at u of i uh he develops 620 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,039 lidar systems for various uh various uh 621 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:43,360 entities and he's even getting involved 622 00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,960 into the uh into the subject so 623 00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:48,559 we're seeing more and more mainstream 624 00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,960 scientists actually pop in and start 625 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:53,039 looking at this this phenomena and start 626 00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:54,640 looking at the aspects of what they 627 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:57,520 could be where they're coming from and 628 00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:00,320 how we can detect them from a uh and get 629 00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:01,760 readings specifically on from a 630 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:04,000 scientific 631 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:05,200 perspective 632 00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,480 and 633 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:08,320 that's what he's working on constantly 634 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,919 currently he says there's a few more 635 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,760 individuals that are interested in it 636 00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:13,440 with the u of i 637 00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:16,080 um and if things do go the way that 638 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:17,840 they're they're planning they may 639 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,240 approach the galileo project as well 640 00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:22,640 yeah that's awesome that's awesome that 641 00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:27,039 that um more people are getting involved 642 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,559 you know yeah yeah because that's that's 643 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,320 really what we need is we need more eyes 644 00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,320 on this subject we need more mainstream 645 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,039 eyes on the subject um people that have 646 00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:37,200 had the training people who can build 647 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,919 the technology what uapx is doing is 648 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:42,080 good but i don't think it's good enough 649 00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:43,679 yeah well 650 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:45,039 i think they can barely get the car 651 00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:51,110 but at least someone's trying you know 652 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,159 like and i suppose you have to do that i 653 00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:56,159 tend to think like a lot of the 654 00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,200 knowledge that comes out from it won't 655 00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:01,120 you know i think the scientific aspect 656 00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:02,799 sometimes will be good for 657 00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:05,440 uh proof and validating 658 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,880 you know people's beliefs and maybe 659 00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,880 bringing more people in but 660 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:10,080 will it 661 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,080 you know solve anything so let's say we 662 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,080 get techno signatures say okay so this 663 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,240 is where it come it comes from and it's 664 00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,480 going this fast and it's made of this 665 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,399 then what you know 666 00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:22,320 well the first thing we do is we try to 667 00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:23,519 figure out how 668 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:24,880 right we 669 00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,760 need to know what when where how and why 670 00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:31,519 these things are appearing and we have 671 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:33,279 none of that information 672 00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,240 yeah 673 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,159 now you've if you've 674 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:38,799 you had like a kind of an experience or 675 00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:41,840 whatever i've had a couple 676 00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,360 two that are 677 00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,279 very definitive 678 00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:47,440 and a couple that were in my teenage 679 00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:50,480 years where i was you know a little uh 680 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:53,360 let's say more wild uh so i can't really 681 00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:54,880 say that those are 682 00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:56,960 uh 683 00:32:03,509 --> 00:31:59,360 yeah yeah so but the other two i've had 684 00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,519 uh i do have um witnesses for um yeah 685 00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,120 the first one was when i was really 686 00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,840 young i was in a car full of 687 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:10,240 full family members and it was a station 688 00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,840 wagon actually and i remember laying 689 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,360 down on the very back of the station 690 00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,120 wagon because in the 80s you didn't have 691 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,799 to be buckled up 692 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:18,720 and i was looking out the back window 693 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:22,000 and i kept seeing this bright red orb 694 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,519 and for some reason i was thinking 695 00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:26,080 that's a very weird 696 00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,519 star 697 00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:29,919 and as we were driving along it was 698 00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:32,159 hovering in this location and then all 699 00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,240 of a sudden it just zipped off out of my 700 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,039 sight and i was probably about 701 00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:39,600 seven at the time so i didn't understand 702 00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:41,120 at all what i was seeing i thought it 703 00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,760 was just something weird i thought maybe 704 00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:45,760 i was uh 705 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,919 seeing an aircraft of some kind but it 706 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:50,399 was later on when i told my dad about it 707 00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:52,960 he really got interested in it and asked 708 00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:54,840 me a little bit more about it 709 00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:57,519 because uh at the time he was working on 710 00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,279 nuclear weapons at whiteman air force 711 00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:01,039 base and he's seen stuff like that as 712 00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:02,000 well 713 00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:04,159 wow yeah 714 00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,679 well yeah i wonder what it is with the 715 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:07,600 with the nuclear stuff because you know 716 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,519 some people make the point that 717 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,440 um they're they're seen all over these 718 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,440 places which obviously we know is true 719 00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:15,600 to some extent but they're also seen 720 00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:19,120 just kind of like all over yeah 721 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,919 well i i know for sure with white men um 722 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,480 that is where they brought a lot of the 723 00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:26,320 nukes in to be serviced from across the 724 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,120 country um because it is centralized 725 00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,600 um and i also know that's where the b2 726 00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,360 stealth bombers were stationed that's 727 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,240 that's their main base that they had uh 728 00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:38,640 during the late 80s and 90s 729 00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,640 and so i would i would assume that if 730 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:41,919 anything wanted to see what our 731 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:44,240 capabilities were it would be whiteman 732 00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:46,080 air force base would be a good place to 733 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,200 observe 734 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,720 sure yeah 735 00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:50,080 interesting 736 00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:55,679 even do you know or what would 737 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,640 what do you think they're really 738 00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:59,039 concerned about us um 739 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,159 you know 740 00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,640 killing ourselves or the world yeah i 741 00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,399 don't know i don't know just destroying 742 00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:06,559 the atmosphere i don't know i i kind of 743 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,560 i kind of like the idea that uh i think 744 00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:10,320 it was lou that said that you know look 745 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,679 at these stupid primates with the 746 00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,800 matches 747 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:14,720 yeah so i think that's that's pretty 748 00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,760 much what what uh 749 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,520 i'm not gonna say pretty much but i'm 750 00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,440 going to say that that's probably why 751 00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,679 they're interested in our facilities or 752 00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:25,359 something as such 753 00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:26,320 um 754 00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,440 i mean 755 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,800 we don't know how long these things have 756 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,079 been here there's there's some 757 00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:31,599 suggestions that they've been here as 758 00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,919 long as you know humanity has or some 759 00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:35,599 that says that they've been here much 760 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,639 longer 761 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,399 um 762 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:40,000 there's evidence that they've been here 763 00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:42,320 through the middle ages in the dark ages 764 00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:43,040 so 765 00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:46,639 we don't again we still don't know what 766 00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:48,320 the hell these things are we're just 767 00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:50,000 making assumptions that they're aliens 768 00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:51,440 we're making assumptions that they're 769 00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:54,480 extraterrestrial yep so yeah 770 00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,760 um 771 00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,520 yeah all we need to do is just 772 00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,440 start looking into the subject get more 773 00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,000 and more scientists on the subject more 774 00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,920 people that are in the field that can do 775 00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:05,599 the the the type of work that's 776 00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:07,839 necessary to figure out what these are 777 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:09,040 and once we 778 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,200 we have that in place we'll start 779 00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:12,720 getting a lot more answers than we 780 00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,000 currently have 781 00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:16,560 yeah i hope so that would be great huh 782 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,400 yep but until then it's like 783 00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,320 we can play nice right and we don't have 784 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:22,960 to buy in a hundred percent on anybody 785 00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:25,440 or anything we can just do our thing and 786 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:26,400 absolutely 787 00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,800 all right brother yeah good call all 788 00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:34,400 right well have a good one 789 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,520 yeah you too 790 00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:38,160 all right bye 791 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:41,839 oh that's nice that was cool sweet 792 00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,400 um 793 00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,640 yeah that was that was pretty cool 794 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,400 pretty cool pretty cool 795 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,400 um 796 00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:51,839 we haven't done 797 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,119 so that link is still up there if 798 00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,040 anybody's interested 799 00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:58,320 you can definitely 800 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,230 otherwise what i'm going to do here is 801 00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:06,240 so i think you know the consensus of 802 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:08,960 this topic is 803 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:11,040 you can take it all in 804 00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,430 you know be positive but you don't have 805 00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,119 to you know 806 00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,430 you know go all in on anybody without 807 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:27,599 really knowing who they are 808 00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,680 i guess basically is my point 809 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,359 and don't assume that you know 810 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:33,119 everything 811 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,240 right because 812 00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:35,920 sometimes they don't 813 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,599 like grier steven gerry for instance 814 00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:41,440 people really started hating on him 815 00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:42,880 because 816 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,960 well he charges money for stuff and all 817 00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:48,790 you go back and look at his kind of 818 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,030 so what does that mean 819 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,790 i think that means that 820 00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:02,870 you know we're we're all just people 821 00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:05,520 doing the best we can sometimes 822 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:09,680 uh but i do have something that i can 823 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,950 that is 824 00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,030 remember what we were doing before it 825 00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,359 was called like uh 826 00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,119 what the heck is that i think it was 827 00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:31,349 what the heck is that 828 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:34,550 actually i don't see it 829 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:40,470 crap 830 00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:45,030 oh well 831 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:47,599 i guess i didn't save it 832 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,550 next time 833 00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,109 uh seems good who cares that's what i 834 00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:05,670 yeah sometimes well yeah he cries so 835 00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:08,560 yeah it seems like he does for sure 836 00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,520 for sure 837 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,510 you know everyone's just doing the best 838 00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:15,760 they can right 839 00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,359 and 840 00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,520 you know as long as people aren't asking 841 00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,079 you to sacrifice a bit of yourself in 842 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,960 one way or another 843 00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:26,400 you know without giving you something 844 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:27,760 like 845 00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,320 you know don't start paying people 100 a 846 00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,359 month for for stuff or 847 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,359 you know going to retreats and paying 848 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,520 two thousand dollars for things like i 849 00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:39,839 think that's where things can go wrong 850 00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:44,829 you 851 00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:48,720 know what i gotta say 852 00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,310 about some doc of the day 853 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,320 um yeah we could do that i guess i'm not 854 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,069 oh duck of the day 855 00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,230 i don't know 856 00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:14,950 i mean just like there's so many that 857 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:21,349 what do you pick 858 00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,200 especially 859 00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,920 when you haven't prepared anything 860 00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:27,440 it's kind of taking a break from doc of 861 00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:28,470 the day i guess 862 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:31,680 [Laughter] 863 00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:34,240 taking a break from doc of the day um 864 00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:37,359 but yeah maybe just a short show today 865 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:42,870 um 866 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,630 i mean i do have 867 00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,670 but you know i'm it's not followed 868 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,200 through all the way yet so i'm i'm 869 00:39:59,360 --> 00:39:57,599 working on something actually 870 00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:59,370 which is in regards to 871 00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,640 [Music] 872 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,200 uh back to like the green fireball stuff 873 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:05,680 of 18 1949 874 00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,000 and you know it's seemingly to me 875 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,670 possibly some of the uh blue book 876 00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,599 work on 877 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,599 the ufo stuff 878 00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,680 had to do with 879 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,920 getting pieces of these meteorites and 880 00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:27,839 studying them for 881 00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:30,319 weapon applications 882 00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,280 and 883 00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:34,079 aerospace vehicles they would study the 884 00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:35,359 lift 885 00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:36,400 lines 886 00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:38,319 on the meteorites 887 00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:39,200 and 888 00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:43,359 could use that 889 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:47,119 for different things like missiles 890 00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:47,920 so 891 00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:01,829 because i don't think anybody knew that 892 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:07,829 but that's how it is 893 00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,950 and there's a lot of other stuff that 894 00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:16,480 was part of that brand project was a 895 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,589 so you know 896 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,270 there's always 897 00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:27,760 different things happening you know 898 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,079 it's not always what it seems like for 899 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:31,440 instance 900 00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:38,630 i didn't even know that would be a thing 901 00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:46,470 turns out it definitely is a thing 902 00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:52,309 that's pretty interesting it's not 903 00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,550 but it is 904 00:42:05,109 --> 00:41:59,920 pretty interesting and it has to do with 905 00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:10,070 and how crazy that future is going to be 906 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:18,069 so 907 00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:23,589 stuff 908 00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,319 [Music] 909 00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:30,960 and i'm going to show you 910 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:38,230 check this out 911 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,589 so i can't have the background music 912 00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,920 going with this that sucks good to know 913 00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:44,720 though human machine inner 914 00:42:52,030 --> 00:42:49,430 look at this 915 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:52,040 and i got this from 916 00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,000 dtic this defense technical 917 00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:58,160 something center um it's a government 918 00:43:02,710 --> 00:42:59,839 website 919 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:02,720 this was put together augmented 920 00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:05,520 reality human machine interfaces so 921 00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,950 here i'll just read it's highly likely 922 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,800 that innovations in nanotechnology 923 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,640 neurotechnology biotechnology 924 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,480 information technology quantum 925 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:18,800 technology and ai will allow for the 926 00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:21,040 mass production of human to computer 927 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,319 interfaces 928 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,319 that will reduce or even eliminate the 929 00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,640 use of mobile device 930 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:28,880 visual touch interfaces over the next 15 931 00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,309 pretty interesting 932 00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:40,319 so this 933 00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:41,520 looks like 934 00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:45,760 literally 935 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,230 [Laughter] 936 00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:50,720 [Music] 937 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,230 uh you guys just love that humor don't 938 00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:58,160 you 939 00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:01,680 um 940 00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:09,510 because when you look at it 941 00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:16,790 it's an estimation of technology 942 00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:25,030 that's right 943 00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:29,119 right here 944 00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:31,839 estimation of technology convergence 945 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:35,040 by 2035. 946 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:36,640 so we got people from the 947 00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:39,839 air force department of state 948 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,230 what happened to music i know 949 00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,560 i know man it's like i can't they don't 950 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,280 let me uh play it while i have 951 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:55,119 this other thing 952 00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,560 here 953 00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:58,880 it's like it can't handle 954 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:00,240 it can handle like 955 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:02,960 four 12 people on the screen but i can't 956 00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:06,480 do this what's that about 957 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,350 that's dumb 958 00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,240 [Laughter] 959 00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,560 but anyways 960 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,079 um 961 00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,400 i think i'm actually going to call this 962 00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:21,920 episode because it's kind of getting out 963 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,790 it's getting way out of hand 964 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,720 but um yeah maybe i'll see you tomorrow 965 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:32,560 maybe i won't i don't know but i just 966 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,480 wanted to do a talk about 967 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:38,319 um 968 00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,599 just some well you know the 969 00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:41,520 personalities of ufology and all that 970 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,540 kind of stuff so 971 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,400 [Music] 972 00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,720 so with that being said i'll see you 973 00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,359 guys next time wednesday and thursday we 974 00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,200 got some guests 975 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,520 so come check that out 976 00:45:59,220 --> 00:45:56,720 and i'll see you soon 977 00:46:19,050 --> 00:45:59,230 peace 978 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:27,530 [Music] 979 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,030 do